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Postby Arkham_Legend » Jul 31st, 2014, 11:24 pm

Im just gonna give a basic run down of what I think the plot should be.

In the beginning I dont want batman directly going after superman, he doesnt trust him and has been working on his battlesuit if needed. Instead he has been tracking down a secret government base which has been using the leftover krytonian technology to develope their own weapons. Of course the man funding the project is lex luther. He hired members from star labs to help manufacture the weapons bringing in cyborg but as victor stone. Though lex has been undergoing his own project, with the remains of zod. He's using his blood to develope his own soldier/weapon to bring down superman. Lex has been stealing some of the kryptonian techology in order to help create it. Once the government realise its being stolen they ask for the help of superman to catch the people responsible and protect what they have, but they tell him they're just storing the weapons instead of using them to develope more. When batman infiltrates the base superman is alerted and speeds over. Batman finds his way into lex's office and downloads his files onto a memory pen. Superman arrives taking batman completely off guard and beats him up bad and leaves him with a few guards but batman throws a smoke pellet and manages to escape. Batman now sees superman as a true threat. He flies back to the batcave with a waiting alfred. Once he is fixed up he looks through the files he downloaded. He finds luther has been creating a soldier using zods blood and something happening at sea which isnt explained in that scene. Then works on completing his battlesuit with a cameo from nightwing. Then we have some lois and Clark scenes as well as martha where he starts talking about how he is haunted by killing zod. Lex calls in victor stone to see how the weapons are going but his now completed soldier goes rogue and tearig victors limbs out. The soldier rages across metropolis and superman intervenes. He is trying to avoid city destruction again and brings the soldier out to the dessert for the final blowout. Bruce wayne arrives at his trust fund party for rebuilding metropolis where he finds Clark kent reporter and immediately sees through his disguise. He keeps a close eye on him and notices he is with lois lane. The next day lois is tipped off about interesting news which turns out to be set up by bruce in order to capture her. He then leaves a letter in her apartment for clark to find on when and where to meet him. Clark then gets another call from the government about an attack on the secret base. When superman arrives he finds a woman destroying the kryptonian technology, its wonder woman. Superman goes to attack her but wonder woman manages to dodge and knock him away. She tells him not to fight her she just wanted to put an end to the madness. It then switches to the batsignal where superman and batman face off. Superman is furious at batman for lois. Batman has a trick up his sleeve... kryptonian atmospherics which weakens superman and allows him to beat him and makes him see that he isnt the enemy, that lex is. Bruce then takes the now trusted superman to the batcave showing him lexs files and then batman finds the situation at sea has reached land and he suits up. He doesnt want clark to go as he isnt at 100% but he insists. When they arrive they find sea creatures attacking and a man leading them. After the blowout they make peace with aquaman who explains he is here due to the effects the world engine had on the sea in man of steel. Roll credits!!!!

MID-CREDITS SCENE!!!! we see victor stone on an operating table getting mechanical implants.. becoming cyborg.

sorry for rambling on but what do you guys think of my idea, thanks.
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Re: plot ideas

Postby Batwoman » Aug 8th, 2014, 11:24 pm

Good plot . I´d have the post-credits scene as a teaser to the villain in the next DC film , Justice League .
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Re: plot ideas

Postby Smart_Alec_Mercer » Aug 9th, 2014, 5:23 am

Edited for clarity:
Arkham_Legend wrote:I'm just gonna give a basic run down of what I think the plot should be.

In the beginning I don't want Batman directly going after Superman, he doesn't trust him and has been working on his battlesuit if needed. Instead he has been tracking down a secret government base which has been using the leftover Krytonian technology to develope their own weapons.

Of course the man funding the project is Lex lutherLuthor. He hired members from star labs to help manufacture the weapons bringing in Cyborg but as Victor Stone. Though Lex has been undergoing his own project, with the remains of Zod. He's using his blood to develope his own soldier/weapon to bring down Superman. Lex has been stealing some of the Kryptonian techology technology in order to help create it.

Once the government realise its being stolen they ask for the help of Superman to catch the people responsible and protect what they have, but they tell him they're just storing the weapons instead of using them to develope more.

When Batman infiltrates the base Superman is alerted and speeds over. Batman finds his way into Lex's office and downloads his files onto a memory pen. Superman arrives taking Batman completely off guard and beats him up bad and leaves him with a few guards but Batman throws a smoke pellet and manages to escape.

Batman now sees Superman as a true threat. He flies back to the batcave with a waiting Alfred. Once he is fixed up he looks through the files he downloaded. He finds luther Luthor has been creating a soldier using Zod's blood and something happening at sea which isn't explained in that scene. Then works on completing his battlesuit with a cameo from Nightwing.

Then we have some Lois and Clark scenes as well as Martha where he starts talking about how he is haunted by killing Zod. Lex calls in Victor Stone to see how the weapons are going but his now completed soldier goes rogue and tearig tears victors limbs out off.

The soldier rages across Metropolis and Superman intervenes. He is trying to avoid city destruction again and brings the soldier out to the dessert for the final blowout.

Bruce Wayne arrives at his trust fund party for rebuilding Metropolis where he finds Clark Kent reporter and immediately sees through his disguise. He keeps a close eye on him and notices he is with Lois Lane. The next day Lois is tipped off about interesting news which turns out to be set up by Bruce in order to capture her.

He then leaves a letter in her apartment for Clark to find on when and where to meet him. Clark then gets another call from the government about an attack on the secret base. When Superman arrives he finds a woman destroying the Kryptonian technology, its Wonder Woman. Superman goes to attack her but Wonder Woman manages to dodge and knock him away. She tells him not to fight her she just wanted to put an end to the madness.

It then switches to the Bat-signal where Superman and Batman face off.

Superman is furious at Batman for lois. Batman has a trick up his sleeve... Kryptonian atmospherics which weakens Superman and allows him to beat him and makes him see that he isnt the enemy, that Lex is.

Bruce then takes the now trusted Superman to the Batcave showing him Lex's files and then Batman finds the situation at sea has reached land and he suits up.

He doesn't want Clark to go as he isnt at 100% but he insists. When they arrive they find sea creatures attacking and a man leading them. After the blowout they make peace with Aquaman who explains he is here due to the effects the world engine had on the sea in Man of Steel.

Roll credits!!!!

MID-CREDITS SCENE!!!! We see Victor Stone on an operating table getting mechanical implants. Becoming cyborg.

Frankly, it's not very good.

"Several" questions:
So Lex has been stealing from his own project, to use the things he's stealing in another project he controls? Why? How would he have access to the Kryptonian gene looms if he's only supposed to have access to the Kryptonian weapons tech? If he's willing to devote the resources to the project why wouldn't he just be able to ask for it? Yes military RnD projects are almost always exclusive but only in that the military is the only people who can use it. You often have several different groups forming a think tank and sharing their research.

So why does the Government bring Superman in on this? Especially when he made it very clear at the end of Man of Steel that he's violently opposed to the Government's efforts to track, censure and control him?

How long is this set after Man of Steel if three (and presumably more.) factions are developing tech based on entirely new principles and have that tech operational already? Why are they building this tech to fight Superman? The alien tech was used on Superman by the Kryptonians. It didn't work.

How does Batman escape Superman using a smoke grenade? Heck. How does Batman escape the top secret military base with future tech using a smoke grenade? IRL there are top secret military bases with dedicated geosynchronous satellites and they are significantly less important than the RnD site building weapons to fight the violent alien godling. (The answer; "Because he's Batman" is acceptable. Frustrating but acceptable.)

Why does Batman see Superman as a threat after fighting him? He (B) already knows how powerful he (S) is. He wrecked a city. By himself. Batman was breaking into a top secret military base dedicated to building weapons to fight Superman. Wouldn't the fact that Superman was fighting to protect those weapons have put him at greater ease? Why would Batman take issue with Luthor creating weapons to fight Superman with when he's (B) already doing that himself? Batman only finds out about the Bizarro clone after he breaks in.

What happens in the desert during the Bizarro/Superman fight? You kind of trail off.

What kind of fundraiser is possibly going to raise enough money to rebuild Metropolis? And again how long as it been? Do you remember that insurance estimate as to how much infrastructure was destroyed? $750 Billion. (That number can't be stated often enough.) Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be some kind of support drive for the survivors of Metropolis?

Why is both Lois and Clark at the fundraiser? It's a fluff piece. An important fluff piece (If that's possible.) but a fluff piece. Why would it require two dedicated action reporters? As opposed to one of the financial or social columnists?

Is there any reason for Bruce to kidnap Lois? He know's Superman's secret identity. Wouldn't any other ambush be as effective and less likely to get other people hurt?

How did Wonder Woman find out about the secret base? Why is she in your story if she's not going to do anything? How does that scene resolve? Who is Wonder Woman? If you're going for the diplomat from Themiscera angle then she probably shouldn't be breaking into an American military base. Why is there no consequence for her actions? That's the sort of thing wars are started over. What the heck does she mean by "Madness?" Everybody but Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman have been surprisingly reasonable.

In the Superman/Batman round 2 fight. How does Batman win? Yeah. He reproduces a Kryptonian atmosphere somehow but he still can't physically hurt Supes. If Batman want's to show that Lex is a greater threat than he (B) is why did he kidnap Lois? That kind of puts a confrontational tone to their relationship. Why is Lex the bad-guy when he hasn't actually done anything yet? Why is Lex the bad-guy when his entire stated motivation is "Protection against alien godling?" Which is exactly what Bruce was doing. Why is Lex still a threat anyway? Bizarro rampaged through his facility and fought Superman in the middle of a city. According to your logic the list of places he could have come from isn't very big. What happened to Lex and Lexcorp after that? You kind of trail off.

Why does Batman trust Superman now? Nothing's changed.

Why is Aquaman here? He doesn't do anything. What is he doing if he's "attacking with sea creatures?" (Granted. That's really cool.) Why would Bruce have a problem with Clark coming to the coast if the biggest issue is maybe getting bitten by a shark? Which wouldn't hurt him (S)? What was the "effect the world engine had on the sea?"

And I'm only addressing plotholes. That barely touches on the narrative or the structural and thematic problems.
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