Shadow War Ending (POLL)

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Re: Shadow War Ending (POLL)

Postby Red leader » Jan 2nd, 2016, 10:26 pm

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Harvey Bullock wrote:Joker was also on the brink of death and wasn't receiving massive doses of a drug that would make him a massive threat instantly...

He could have been given a cure that would return him to his chaotic and destructive self, making him once again Gotham's greatest threat. Sounds familiar in my opinion. There's not much of a difference.

Except there is, as Batman is able to match Joker physically and could've immediately subdued him after curing him. With R'as, you're dealing with a man comparable in physicality to Batman, hopped up on a drug that increases his strength and unpredictability and also in command of one of the deadliest organisations on the planet.

There's a big difference.

Hey Ewan i read "Batman: death and the maidens" and they bring up the morality of letting ras not get to a pit. Ras says that it is like refusing to give a man who had a heart attack insulin while bruce argues those of different situations. Its not really continued much after that but that one scene is really similar to this debate.
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Re: Shadow War Ending (POLL)

Postby Wyrewho » May 19th, 2016, 3:48 pm

The siding with Nyssa ending is far better and makes infinitely more sense.

But I went with curing Ra's just because I love the borderline insane lengths Batman goes to to stubbornly maintain his no kill rule.

All the civilians that will likely die as a result of curing him? Meh, we'll cross that bridge later.

Seems to be Batman's way of thinking a lot of the time. :heath:
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Re: Shadow War Ending (POLL)

Postby Harvey Bullock » May 28th, 2016, 11:13 am

Red leader wrote:
Harvey Bullock wrote:
JordanT4021 wrote:
Harvey Bullock wrote:Joker was also on the brink of death and wasn't receiving massive doses of a drug that would make him a massive threat instantly...

He could have been given a cure that would return him to his chaotic and destructive self, making him once again Gotham's greatest threat. Sounds familiar in my opinion. There's not much of a difference.

Except there is, as Batman is able to match Joker physically and could've immediately subdued him after curing him. With R'as, you're dealing with a man comparable in physicality to Batman, hopped up on a drug that increases his strength and unpredictability and also in command of one of the deadliest organisations on the planet.

There's a big difference.

Hey Ewan i read "Batman: death and the maidens" and they bring up the morality of letting ras not get to a pit. Ras says that it is like refusing to give a man who had a heart attack insulin while bruce argues those of different situations. Its not really continued much after that but that one scene is really similar to this debate.

Oh wow, I only just saw this! That's pretty cool. Really enjoyed looking back over this topic since SOI's release (thanks Wyrewho for resurrecting it). I'm still under the same opinion I was when this debate was first had, but I definitely think I could've worded my arguments better earlier on in the topic. :oldyella:

I just don't think multiple choices and Batman mesh very well. I'd much rather a talented writing team (like we saw in Asylum and Origins) were given the freedom to create a truly riveting narrative, rather than reducing discussion to a crass dissection of Batman's morality in a totally unnecessary multiple choice scenario.
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