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Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby Valiantguardian » Jan 26th, 2016, 7:42 am

my sister was dumbfounded at his refusal to JUST KILL HIM Regarding the joker in arkham asylum... Joker even calls it a "Running gag" at the end of arkham city... in batman beyond MCginnis seems to think Bruce Killed Joker And way bruce is silent... Seems to say "Maybe that would have been best..."
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Re: Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby M. Malone » Jan 30th, 2016, 12:33 am

To answer your question: In real life? Yes, it's irrational. But in make-believe, it's one of the things I like about the character.
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Re: Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby MaxSchreck » Feb 5th, 2016, 10:08 pm

Yeah, it would be a lot more realistic if Batmans no killing rule would be more lax (like in Son of the Demon for example) but the real problem is how Dc is making his villains as horrible as possible these days. In BTAS you could justify Batmans approach since the villains almost at no point actually kill people and are depicted as tortured, mentally ill individuals who have some potential of at some point being reformed, but the current Batman villains are with a few exceptions all irredemable, mass killing monsters. Not only does it seriously undermine the mythos they are trying to create (while other Superhero books like Superman or Green Lantern celebrate their characters ideology) its also a borderline offensive depiction of the mentally ill when you think about it, since in real life people experiencing metal illness generally suffer from it a lot, while the Dc characters revel in their depravity with very little consequences for themselves.
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Re: Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby pukipuki » Mar 23rd, 2016, 10:43 am

Look at this vid, all the right points are made.

https://youtu.be/CgopovyODHU
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Re: Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby M. Malone » Jun 3rd, 2016, 5:11 pm

^^^ Cool video, thanks for posting the link
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Re: Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby DarkFlux » Jun 3rd, 2016, 6:41 pm

Its not a case of rationality though is it?
Batman doesnt refuse to kill him because he deems it to be rational or not, its more a principle for him. To be upheld no matter what. Arguebly in spite of rationality.

That and, y'know... comic business.
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Re: Is Batmans "No killing EVER" Rule irrational?

Postby MaxSchreck » Jun 4th, 2016, 2:59 pm

Its not a case of rationality though is it?
Batman doesnt refuse to kill him because he deems it to be rational or not, its more a principle for him. To be upheld no matter what. Arguebly in spite of rationality.


Which makes it pretty stupid.

The best defense of the no killing rule still is the one from Scott Snyders run where Bruce sort of becomes aware that he is a fictional character and that if he killed the Joker Gotham (the universe in which his stories take place) would just send him a worse threat to replace him. And yeah, there already are more powerful enemies that Bruce has helped to defeat, but very few of them had such a high body count as the Joker. Even the god-like beings that the Justice League face normally donĀ“t do as much damage. Thats how his stories are these days. Which raises the question if Bruce should have become Batman or whether it would have been better if he had just used his fortune and influence to make the city a better place since by ending the stranglehold the mob had over the city stronger enemies like the Joker emerged. Thank god Snyder changed that in the New 52, so the Joker was always there and not a consequence of Bruce taking action like some other writers for some reason thought they needed to suggest.
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